I Told You So

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I Told You So

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So, I've been second-guessed and/or mocked since the rebirth of Festivus when it comes to the topic of politics. I told you all that if Trump lost and the Dems controlled both houses, it would be the end of America as we know it in short order.

Man, I hate being right. Biden hasn't even been sworn in yet, and big tech is already going on a Orwellian censorship push that would make the USSR proud. Trump permanently kicked off Twitter, and many other prominent conservatives being affected as well. Efforts to rush through a second impeachment and to force Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley to resign for wanting an investigation of the election results. The Lincoln Project talking about putting a scarlet letter on anybody who worked in the Trump administration and blackballing their professional careers. People on the left openly talking about "cleansing" Trump supporters from American life and culture....the word "cleansing" should send shivers up your spine.

As soon as he takes office, they will do whatever they can to give citizenship to every illegal alien in the US, thus guaranteeing there will never be another Republican president. Then they'll get rid of the filibuster. Then they'll the stack the Supreme Court. Then they come for your guns.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not.
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Yep. The Twitter and the Facebook are the pillars of the 1st Amendment. Once they start banning people and groups with hate speech and incite violence, that's the end. OH WAIT. The First Amendment doesn't apply to social media companies. And private enterprises can run their companies how they want WITHOUT government interference.

I will admit, if they do it for one side, they ought to start doing it for the other.

However, when Marriot, JP Morgan, Blue Cross Blue Shield, the PGA of America, Citigroup (source), and others have either stopped their political contributions or are thinking about stopping them, that says capitalism is working. They view some politicians as toxic and do not want to do business with them. That's no different than if it was a vendor or investment they see as toxic. You don't keep relationships that could harm you. Cruz, Hawley, and Trump are nuclear at this point thanks to their actions.

People and companies are having knee-jerk reactions because of the terrible events that transpired at the Capitol. They will be reeled back in when they feel that it is safe to act.

Cruz, Hawley, and Trump did this to themselves.
Then they'll get rid of the filibuster.
Republicans paved the way for the Democrats when they executed the "Nuclear Option". https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/p ... enate.html

Joe Manchin (D-WV), Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), Angus King (I-MA) and even Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) have made statements against removing the filibuster. Moderates on both sides still weld a LOT of power. It only takes one of these to vote with the Republicans to keep your doomsday scenario from playing out. My money is NOT on Feinstein.
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Bubs, I never said it was a first amendment issue. They are private entities. However, they are clearly trying to become the "thought police" and it should alarm everybody. Leftists can get on social media and say whatever they want, including inciting violence, and there are no consequences. Being a conservative, however, is now socially unacceptable on social media. They're even trying to take down Parler...that should bring an antitrust suit.

I'm not going to defend Trump, but what did Cruz and Hawley do other than ask for an investigation? One for which there is a historical precedent? While the spineless RINOs fall back into line...
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Master of My Domain wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:00 pm
I'm not going to defend Trump, but what did Cruz and Hawley do other than ask for an investigation? One for which there is a historical precedent?
They were megaphones for the lies of a stolen election and purposely misled people for their own political gain.

There's nothing wrong for asking for an investigation. I would like to see one. It's the lies they helped spread that I have issues with.

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I admit I haven't been following the news real closely as of late because I find it too damn depressing/scary. However, what "lies" did Cruz and Hawley push? That there was fraud in the election? There were hours and hours of testimony presented that show there was fraud...you can argue you don't find some of it credible or that there wasn't enough to sway the election, but calling into doubt the authenticity of this past election is not and should not be blasphemy. The left has been whining for four years that the last election was illegitimate because of Russia, Russia, Russia...but, somehow this is worse?

Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall them specifically saying that the election was stolen. I recall them saying they were concerned about possible fraud and wanted a 10 day investigation before certifying the election. If I missed something, please tell me.
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"Leftists can get on social media and say whatever they want, including inciting violence, and there are no consequences. Being a conservative, however, is now socially unacceptable on social media."

This is what drives me crazy. You can't be a conservative w/o basically being called at best "unwoke" and worst "racist". fuck you. that's dumb.

also I hate social media.

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What credible evidence has been brought forward? The stuff Guiliani presented in Michigan was a complete circus.


There's a reason why these 60+ lawsuits got thrown out or dismissed completely. And it's not because they are all Democrat puppets.

If I make baseless allegations against GlassJoe, the suit should be thrown out. That's what seems to have happened here. There isn't enough evidence to meet the standard of harm or illegality at the scale they are accusing.

My point is that the people making the accusations of a stolen election or "possible election fraud" have made their argument and had their day in court. Nothing came of it. Call me a lemming or sheepeople but I would rather put my faith in the judicial system (that Trump helped create over the last 4 years) and in the Electoral College than a few Congressmen and Senators who can't just admit that Trump lost in an election that was no more or less fair than any other.

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Master of My Domain wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:00 pm
They're even trying to take down Parler...that should bring an antitrust suit.
AWS, Play Store, Apple Store have 1 thing in common: Terms and Conditions of use.

When you use any of these platforms you agree to them. Many people don't bother reading them but this will happen when you breach them. As you stated, this has nothing to do with the freedom of speech and everything to do with what they agreed to when they decided to use the platform.

All of the counter-arguments are baseless unless you can find something in the terms and conditions that states you can do what you want on these platforms. If you can't, then you have no argument and are just embarrassing yourself by demonstrating you don't understand this at all.

Being "Woke" is dumb. Cancel culture is even worse. "Cleansing" is an extremely scary word. Corporations have more power than they ever have before and one could argue that has happened thanks to deregulation, corporations using lobbying firms to write laws that benefit them, and antitrust law not being upheld. These same laws have made the United States the most innovative and successful economy ever. I am all for looking hard at FB, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, JP Morgan, BofA, Wells Fargo, and Apple to see if it's time to break them up.

It benefitted the market when Bell Systems and Standard Oil broke up. It would benefit the market if some or all of these companies were broken up.

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https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/biden ... tizenship/

So, as I told you all, the Democrats are going to give illegal aliens citizenship, thus turning Texas blue and guaranteeing the death of the GOP. Enjoy one party rule, led by Chuck and Nancy. Our descent into hell starts now.

If Texas has any balls, now would be the time to secede...before we become California 2.0.
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Or....OR...how about the Republican party start actively recruiting and including Mexican immigrants to their party? I've said it before and I'll say it again, these people have a lot more values that line up with Republicans than they do with Democrats.

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That’s impossible, Bubs. Republicans have been misleading themselves for a generation thinking that they could convert Latino voters. Too many of them get their news from Jorge Ramos. Democrats promise citizenship and freebies so they can disenfranchise the rest of the country. It’s too late for that, if it ever was possible in the first place.

Trump should have put his full weight behind building the wall and ending chain immigration when he first took office. He wasted that opportunity, and with liberals in charge we’re on our way into becoming Central or South American type country in a decade, if not sooner.

The U.S. has failed horribly at protecting our southern border, and Texas shouldn’t take it. Time to secede.
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That's a defeatist attitude.

It's not nearly as bad as you make it out to be. https://www.as-coa.org/articles/chart-h ... l-election

66% of the Latino vote is a landslide, ass-whoopin' in any election. However, Republicans did better in Florida, AZ, TX, Nevada, CO, Iowa, Georgia, Virginia, Ohio, and New York. So Republicans CAN convert Latino voters. Stick to Faith, Country, strong economic ties with Mexico/Latin America so they can easily send money back and forth, good jobs, and affordable housing. There is a HUGE number of Latinos that do NOT want a free pass for other illegal immigrants.

Biden's plan is also over 8 years. The illegals have to show that they have been paying taxes, no serious criminal offenses and pass background checks. They also need to know English.

The wall was always folly. Politically, financially, and in reality, it couldn't be done. It didn't work for the USSR in Germany. It wasn't going to work here.


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Just chiming in to let you know that y'all provide some worthwhile reading. I see where you're coming from, MOMD. We're all interested in seeing how this all plays out, and I know that it helps to hope for the best and not let pessimism take over. The good in our system will win out, right?. Let these politicians uphold their duties. There will be more elections and we'll all continue trying to improve this great nation. I guess that's just my way of saying life will go on.

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NumberTwo wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:26 am
Just chiming in to let you know that y'all provide some worthwhile reading. I see where you're coming from, MOMD. We're all interested in seeing how this all plays out, and I know that it helps to hope for the best and not let pessimism take over. The good in our system will win out, right?. Let these politicians uphold their duties. There will be more elections and we'll all continue trying to improve this great nation. I guess that's just my way of saying life will go on.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... ffice-job/

So, it's still the first week and Biden is already taking a wrecking ball to the economy...for "climate change." But, it's okay because Biden is really a moderate, right?
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Master of My Domain wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Then they'll get rid of the filibuster. Then they'll the stack the Supreme Court.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not.
MOMD - I don't expect you to say "I was wrong" because things change. But I do expect you to say "I was wrong about the filibuster...for now." It's gonna be very difficult to stack the court when the filibuster is still in place.

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/26/96062123 ... -stalemate
Late Monday, McConnell said he was ready to move forward after two Democrats signaled they would not vote to end the legislative filibuster, assuring him that it would stay in place. The position of the two moderate Democrats — Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — also ensured that Majority Leader Chuck Schumer lacked the votes to end the filibuster, a key demand from his party's left.
I'll hang up and listen.

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Agree with MOMD. We are headed down a path to being Venezuela. Hell Venezuela is looking good in some aspects.
Kill the energy industry. Start importing oil again from countries that hate our asses. Give illegals everything including citizenship, welfare, benefits and the right to vote (no ID required of course). Make DC and PR states to get four more liberal senators. End the filibuster rule. Stack the court. White people (and males for sure) are the bad guys about everything. It is reverse apartheid. 12% of the population controlling 100% of the narrative. Conservatives will never win another national election now that the Dems have the process down.

I was especially sad to hear that Smokin Joe Frazier of Philadelphia cast his mail in ballot for Joe Biden in 2020. Biden was the only person on the ballot that Smokin Joe voted for. Did not even vote for the local school board guy. Interesting since Smokin Joe passed in 2011. Guess there was no signature verification on that mail in ballot. But I digress......
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T-Bubs wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:27 pm
Master of My Domain wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Then they'll get rid of the filibuster. Then they'll the stack the Supreme Court.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not.
MOMD - I don't expect you to say "I was wrong" because things change. But I do expect you to say "I was wrong about the filibuster...for now." It's gonna be very difficult to stack the court when the filibuster is still in place.

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/26/96062123 ... -stalemate
Late Monday, McConnell said he was ready to move forward after two Democrats signaled they would not vote to end the legislative filibuster, assuring him that it would stay in place. The position of the two moderate Democrats — Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — also ensured that Majority Leader Chuck Schumer lacked the votes to end the filibuster, a key demand from his party's left.
I'll hang up and listen.
Bubs, that is a sad little victory to claim, if that is what you're doing. As you pointed out, they're keeping the filibuster..."for now." TWO...only TWO Democratic senators we willing to stand up to this madness. And, wait until they really NEED those votes. They're saying no for the time being because there is no critical vote pending. As soon as they need those votes, Manchin and Sinema will cave to the pressure in their own parties and we're on our way to socialism/communism/one party control.

While you're doing a victory dance over this, Biden has launched a commission to study reform of the Supreme Court:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/2 ... orm-463126

I wonder what their recommendation will be...could it be stacking the Supreme Court with liberal activists? You know, for fairness?

And how many executive orders has Biden already signed? Last I saw, his handlers had gotten him to sign 42...that was a couple of days ago.
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Seymour Butts 2 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:40 am
Agree with MOMD. We are headed down a path to being Venezuela. Hell Venezuela is looking good in some aspects.
Kill the energy industry. Start importing oil again from countries that hate our asses. Give illegals everything including citizenship, welfare, benefits and the right to vote (no ID required of course). Make DC and PR states to get four more liberal senators. End the filibuster rule. Stack the court. White people (and males for sure) are the bad guys about everything. It is reverse apartheid. 12% of the population controlling 100% of the narrative. Conservatives will never win another national election now that the Dems have the process down.

I was especially sad to hear that Smokin Joe Frazier of Philadelphia cast his mail in ballot for Joe Biden in 2020. Biden was the only person on the ballot that Smokin Joe voted for. Did not even vote for the local school board guy. Interesting since Smokin Joe passed in 2011. Guess there was no signature verification on that mail in ballot. But I digress......
Thank you, Seymour. I really wish more people realized just how dangerous these times are and how close we are to radically transforming our nation into something it has never been.
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Ooooh, don't get on your "executive order high horse" just yet, Mr. SmartyPants. Trump signed 220. I would agree, the executive order powers need to be reeled in.

I get it. I don't want to see the court packed either. Until Biden states that he's gonna try to do it (which he has already said he's not fan), I'll hold my breath.

From the article you shared:
Commissions are often places where ideas go to die and there is no time on the clock to reform the court,” said Aaron Belkin, the director of Take Back the Court, a progressive group advocating for adding seats to the Supreme Court. “The entire agenda of what needs to get done is in jeopardy thanks to stolen federal courts.”
I'd bet Biden is appeasing the liberal super left he has to work with by "looking into it" while knowing he's gonna leave it at 9.
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I see the filibuster compromise an example of reason JT expressed in his 1st inaugural address. Maybe packing the courts too. Let's see if it holds.

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